I don't understand. Yeshua Jesus is offering the free gift of salvation to respentant sinners who know Him as God, Lord, and Savior. I just don't get it.
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
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"Oh, I sinned, I am so bad... I repent." - saying this means nothing. You just created some sound waves in the air, which will be extinguished in a few milliseconds.
"Damn, I screwed up... Okay, let us move on, learn from this mistake and do a better job later." - now this I can respect; this has real world consequences.
So, Gospel is not "offensive" in this regard. It is just senseless.
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You must have an actual sorrow for the things you did wrong, try to fix it and prevent similar mistakes by you and others.
You have to have the right intent, or it won't count for anything.
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I do not care what the intent is. Intent means nothing, it exists only in the head of the person. I care about the action.
Okay, you are sorry, you genuinely want to repent. Now what? What are you going to do about your failures?
If you take action and fix those failures, then you do not need to repent: you redeemed yourself already.
If you just repent, but it leads nowhere practically - then your repenting is meaningless.
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Christianity promotes this strange concept of "I feel sorrow = I gain some points". This is not how the real world works, however. If you have failed to pay off your loan, you will not go to the bank saying, "I feel sorry", and get an indulgence - you will either find a way to get the money to pay off the loan, or you will go to the courtroom and explain to the judge how sorry you are, and the judge will explain to you how fun your finances are going to be in the upcoming years.
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Besides, if only actions redeemed you, that would be the easy way out. Punched a guy and left without paying my bill? I'll go do some humanitarian work and donate some old clothes. All better. Now, to go drinking and paint the town red with my friends. See? If you think that good actions will make up for your bad actions, then you'll just repeat this cycle. The intent and sorrow are added so that you can try and break the cycle.
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People should learn to focus more on their present and future, instead of agonizing over the past. The latter never did anyone any good.
Want to redeem yourself for your mistakes? Then get your life straight and lead by example. I do not see the value in feeling sorrow and apologizing, but I do see the value in moving further and making the mistakes irrelevant next to your achievements.
If someone murdered someone, proceeded to learn a few sciences while in prison, and led on to becoming a Nobel Prize winner in physics - then, in my eyes, they have demonstrated that they are no longer that person. Instead, if they had spent the whole time in prison wailing in regret - and came out with nothing but sorrow... Then they have learned nothing. Even if they have done a lot of community service at the same time, fundamentally they are stuck on their past, and that past has defined them and barred their progress as an individual.
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I think you're making a larger effort to estrange our views from each other than is necessary.
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Why would any god deserve worship? I find that longing for worship is petty, more so when it come from a supposedly omniscient & omnipotent being...
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What is stopping me from loving Jesus? First and foremost my rejection of the very concept of divinity I guess, then there's the fact that I don't think he actually existed... I do think the basic message is a good one but it's basically the Golden Rule blended with some unnecessary supernatural nonsense...
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“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.” Dt.13:6-10
The bible is a manual for bigotry. It's handy for those times when you need to hate somebody that is the same color as you are.
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I've been raised a catholic, Sunday school and all. and I have come across all possible arguments and none was in the least convincing. I can understand a deistic view of Existence, although I've some reserves too, but I outright reject theism not only as nonsense but also as detrimental to human flourishing.
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Mostly because the alleged "author" never shows up to quiet the radicals that USE it as a control tool, many, (more all the time), can only see it as mythology. If a true "god" is "out there", he's like a CEO that's never seen by his workers. He loses respect and many begin to think he doesn't exist. S/HE/IT is guilty of poor management. Sometimes I have to see to believe, it's all I ask.
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https://carm.org/why-is-evidence-of-jesus-found-only-in-the-bible
https://carm.org/proof-that-jesus-existed
https://carm.org/jesus-exist
https://carm.org/was-jesus-just-myth
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@Dr_Maybe
Perhaps you should try searching for this "Deuteronomy 13:6-10 explained".
Did you ever do that?
http://bbfohio.com/how-do-you-defend-deuteronomy-1313/
https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/guzik_david/StudyGuide2017-Deu/Deu-13.cfm
http://www.biblequery.org/dt.html
Q: In Dt 13:1-16 and Dt 18:10-12, today should we kill enchanters, necromancers, and all those the Old Testament says to kill?
A: No. Three points to consider in the answer.
1. Government investigation: Even back then, you could not just take it in your own hands to personally kill someone you suspected of that. Deuteronomy 13:14 said the town was to make a thorough (and presumably official) investigation first.
2. Only under theocracy: The Israelites lived under a "theocracy" where those who lived in the land had covenanted with God the Torah was the legal code. When godly Jews, such as Daniel, Jonah, Ezekiel, and Nehemiah, lived and traveled outside of Israel, where they were not under a theocracy, they made no effort to harm enchanters, idolators, or others.
3. Today, we do not live under a "theocracy". While some people such as the Puritans, attempted to set up a theocracy, the New Testament gives no such indication that we should attempt to do so. Thus, Christians today should not harm immoral heterosexuals, practicing homosexuals, idolators, cultists, and so forth. While murder, theft, and other crimes still should be punished today, that is a government function; there should be no Christian vigilantes. However, even today we should not do those things ourselves.
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And especially if you know history and have an idea of how Gospel came to be and what folklore elements were used there, you will have a really hard time seeing it as anything other than fiction. Unless, that is, you believe folklore to describe real historical events as well...
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I think much of it is just good common sense. I try to live by "good, common sense", ( i.e. most of that "Gospel"). I simply don't have confidence in its origin or its author (s).
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Wow!! You really do not know what you are talking about? You know how the Gospels came to be, and deep down it makes perfect sense, and you know that it is true, but because you cannot admit that you are wrong, you instead are making up a story to explain where they came from. Wow!!
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Actually, it should be the exact opposite. Whenever I watch the show "Cops, it always says something like "criminal is innocnt until proven guilty". So in the same way, it is true, until it proven to be false.
It's called "benefit of the doubt".
From something that is right out of one of my books, which also happens to be online.
https://www.josh.org/resources/apologetics/answering-skeptics/
Isn’t the Bible Full of Contradictions?
"One of the things for which we appeal with regard to possible contradictions is fairness. We should not minimize or exaggerate the problem, and we must always begin by giving the author the benefit of the doubt. This is the rule in other literature, and we ask that it also be the rule here. We find so often that people want to employ a different set of rules when it comes to examining the Bible, and to this we immediately object."  Considerate: 84%  
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